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E125
March 10, 2026
The Sleep Crisis in Menopause: Insomnia, Sleep Apnea & Solutions
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Poor sleep during perimenopause and menopause isn't just exhausting—it's linked to increased cardiovascular disease risk, depression, anxiety, weight gain, cognitive decline, and reduced quality of life. Yet for decades, women's sleep complaints have been minimized, dismissed, or blamed on just getting older.

In this episode, Dr. Mary Claire Haver sits down with board-certified sleep medicine specialist Dr. Andrea Matsumura to unpack what's really happening to women's sleep during the menopause transition and what we can actually do about it. Dr. Matsumura completed her medical degree at the University of Texas Health Science Center San Antonio and her internal medicine residency in Portland, Oregon before returning to Oregon Health & Science University for a fellowship in sleep medicine, where she discovered the critical connection between women's hormones and sleep disorders.

Up to 50% of menopausal women have undiagnosed sleep apnea, and women present so differently than men that they're consistently missed by gender-biased screening tools like the STOP-BANG questionnaire, which actually gives women a lower risk score simply for being female. The conversation explores the role of estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone in sleep regulation, from thermal control to airway support to deep sleep maintenance, and why even women on hormone therapy can still struggle with insomnia. It also reveals why 30% of postmenopausal women battle restless leg syndrome and the connection to ferritin levels that most doctors miss.

Dr. Matsumura breaks down what Cognitive Behavioral Therapy for Insomnia actually involves, describing it as behavioral retraining that's like building muscle rather than a quick fix. She introduces her Dream Sleep Method, an acronym covering daytime activity, resting environment, emotions, archetype or chronotype, and medical conditions, providing a comprehensive framework for addressing root causes of sleep disruption rather than just masking symptoms. The discussion covers why melatonin production drops by 50% by age 50, why the pineal gland is the first gland in the body to calcify, and what that means for sleep quality in midlife.

Dr. Matsumura explains how to build the perfect sleep environment with three key elements: dark, cool, and quiet. She covers why sleep restriction or the accordion effect can help retrain the brain, and how sleep trackers can be both helpful and harmful depending on how you use them. This episode provides women with the knowledge that their sleep struggles are treatable medical conditions, not inevitable consequences of aging, and that small improvements in sleep quality can yield significant health benefits for women in perimenopause and menopause.

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00:00:00 Introduction: Why Women’s Sleep Is So Often Dismissed
00:01:03 Meet Dr. Andrea Matsumura
00:04:00 Andrea’s Story and What Drew Her to Medicine
00:06:26 Why She Chose Sleep Medicine
00:08:27 What Insomnia Really Is
00:10:18 What a Sleep Medicine Specialist Does
00:12:22 How Women’s Sleep Symptoms Get Missed
00:14:43 Why Sleep Matters for Heart, Brain, and Hormone Health
00:17:10 What Restorative Sleep Actually Looks Like
00:23:05 How Hormones Shape Sleep in Midlife
00:28:33 Why Women Struggle to Fall Asleep or Stay Asleep
00:34:13 The Real Treatment for Chronic Insomnia
00:42:14 Sleep Apnea and Restless Legs in Women
00:45:39 Melatonin, Nightmares, and Sleep Myths
00:57:21 What Actually Works: Hormones, Habits, and Better Sleep
01:16:13 The Dream Sleep Method
01:20:05 Resetting Sleep in Menopause and Midlife

About the guest

Dr. Andrea Matsumura

Dr. Andrea Matsumura is a nationally recognized sleep and menopause expert, board-certified in both Internal and Sleep Medicine. As the creator of the D.R.E.A.M. Sleep Method™ and the Sleep Goddess Archetype™, she’s redefining how women understand and optimize their natural rhythms for better sleep and long-term health.

Dr. Matsumura trained at The University of Texas Health Science Center at San Antonio and completed her Internal Medicine residency in Portland, Oregon, where she spent 13 years practicing primary care before pursuing a fellowship in Sleep Medicine at Oregon Health and Science University. She later became a partner at The Oregon Clinic, where she developed a large consult service dedicated to women’s health and sleep.  She is currently the Lead  Medical Director of Clinical Services and Medical Home Development at Cascadia Health. The largest community-wide healthcare center in the state.  Dr. Matsumura is also the co-founder of the M/Power, a Menopause Collective, a dedicated group of women physicians with a mission to elevate diverse voices to promote a more equitable and informed approach to midlife health.

In addition to her clinical work, Dr. Matsumura is a leading voice in public health. She serves on the executive board of the Oregon Medical Association and its JEDI Committee (Justice, Equity, Diversity & Inclusion), and is a Fellow of the American Academy of Sleep Medicine (AASM). As a task force leader for the Sleep Is Good Medicine™ campaign, she is focused on educating the general public and practitioners on the importance of sleep and sleep disorders.

Dr. Matsumura is passionate about elevating inclusive conversations around menopause and sleep. Blending science, soul, and strategy to help women step into midlife with confidence, clarity, and rest. She speaks regularly on women’s health and medical podcasts, and is an event conference speaker. She has been tapped as a leading sleep expert in the New York Times, SHAPE and SELF magazines, and CNN Underscored.