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April 14, 2026
Plant Medicine for Menopause: What Science and Ancient Healing Say Actually Works
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In this episode of unPAUSED, Dr. Mary Claire Haver sits down with Dr. Suzanne Gilberg-Lenz, a board-certified OB-GYN, integrative medicine expert, and author with nearly 30 years of clinical experience, including training in Ayurvedic medicine spanning almost two decades. Dr. Gilberg-Lenz is the Chief Clinical Officer of Monarch, a membership-based healthcare practice built to restore what modern medicine has nearly eliminated: time, relationship, and trust between women and their clinicians.

Dr. Haver and Dr. Gilberg-Lenz open with a question that sits at the heart of women's midlife health: why does the current healthcare system consistently fail to see women clearly? Dr. Gilberg-Lenz explains why the system is not built for humans but for shareholders, reimbursement structures, and productivity metrics that reward procedures over listening. She breaks down the difference between burnout and moral injury, why physicians are leaving traditional medicine in record numbers, and what it actually costs women when their doctors are structurally prevented from knowing them. The conversation traces how the 1910 Flexner Report reshaped American medicine, shutting down Black medical colleges, eliminating part-time schools where women trained, and marginalizing plant-based and indigenous healing traditions in ways that still define clinical practice today.

The episode goes deep on perimenopause as a distinct and frequently missed phase of hormonal transition, why women in perimenopause are being handed antidepressants, sleeping pills, and fibromyalgia diagnoses instead of hormonal evaluations, and what happens when postpartum and perimenopause overlap in women having babies after 40. Dr. Gilberg-Lenz also speaks candidly about her own breast cancer diagnosis at 47 and her decision, as a survivor, to go on hormone therapy, reframing what it means to build health span rather than simply extend lifespan.

The conversation turns to plant medicine, where Dr. Gilberg-Lenz draws on Ayurvedic training and the emerging science of botanical treatments to walk through what actually works for perimenopause and menopause symptoms. She discusses chasteberry and its role in supporting progesterone production during perimenopause, Siberian rhubarb as a potential selective estrogen receptor modulator for hot flashes, and the evidence behind black cohosh, including why its bad reputation is largely undeserved. She offers concrete guidance on how to evaluate supplement quality, why third-party testing is non-negotiable, and how to integrate botanical medicine responsibly alongside conventional care. She also previews her forthcoming book on plant medicine, covering both the science and the history of how humans have always turned to plants to heal.

This episode is equal parts systems critique and practical toolkit, a conversation about why women deserve more time and a much wider lens on what medicine can be.

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Chapters

00:00 The Healthcare System Is Failing Women
02:10 Why Patients Aren’t Truly Seen or Heard
04:15 Building a Movement Around Women’s Health
06:10 What “Healthspan” Really Means for Women
08:20 Breast Cancer, Hormones & Identity
10:40 The Truth About Perimenopause (No One Talks About)
12:30 Why Women Are Overmedicated Instead of Understood
14:30 Pregnancy Over 40 Meets Perimenopause
17:00 Postpartum vs. Perimenopause Explained
19:00 The Hidden Gap in Women’s Health Research
22:00 Why Doctors Don’t Have Time to Listen
25:00 Why Women’s Healthcare Is Undervalued
30:00 What Good Healthcare Should Actually Look Like
38:00 How to Advocate for Yourself in a Broken System
46:00 Rethinking Menopause, Longevity & Prevention
58:00 The Future of Women’s Healthcare
1:10:00 Final Takeaways & Closing Thoughts

About the guest

Dr. Suzanne Gilberg-Lenz

A disruptor, healer, educator and fellow of the American College of Obstetrics and Gynecology, Dr. Suzanne Gilberg earned her medical degree from USC in 1996 and completed her OB/GYN residency at Cedars-Sinai. Board certified in integrative and holistic medicine, she also holds a Clinical Ayurvedic Specialist degree. Dr. Gilberg is Chief Medical Correspondent for The Drew Barrymore Show and author of Menopause Bootcamp. She serves as Chief Clinical Officer at Monarch, transforming women’s healthcare, and co-founded Cedars-Sinai’s Green Committee. Based in Beverly Hills, she’s committed to healing individuals, families, communities, and the planet.