In this episode of unPAUSED, Dr. Mary Claire Haver brings back her conversation from earlier this year with Dr. Rachel Rubin, a board certified urologist and sexual medicine specialist at Georgetown University and a contributor to the 2025 American Urological Association guidelines on genitourinary syndrome of menopause (GSM). The conversation opens with why so many women never get help for female sexual dysfunction, when only three fellowship programs train doctors in women’s sexual health compared with 27 for men.
Dr. Rubin walks through the full anatomy of the clitoris, why most women will never orgasm from penetration alone, and why painful sex is never normal. One overlooked source of vulvar pain is the vestibule, a rim of tissue around the urethra packed with estrogen and testosterone receptors. When these hormones drop, it can make sex, tampons, and pelvic exams hurt, a condition often called vestibulodynia. She explains why GSM, once called vaginal atrophy, is a serious urologic condition rather than simple vaginal dryness. She also explains why vaginal estrogen can prevent more than half of urinary tract infections while lubricant does nothing to stop them.
The two doctors also cover how SSRIs, birth control pills, and GLP1 medications can affect libido and orgasm, and why two FDA approved medications for hypoactive sexual desire disorder remain largely unknown. Dr. Rubin closes with her menu of hormone options, from systemic estrogen, progesterone, and testosterone for women to local vaginal hormones, and why the goal of HRT is helping a woman feel like herself again. For any woman dealing with painful sex, low libido, or recurrent UTIs in perimenopause and menopause, this conversation is a reminder that pleasure matters.
Guest links:
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Dr. Rachel Rubin (Instagram)
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Dr. Rachel Rubin (YouTube)
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Dr. Rachel Rubin (Website)
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Dr. Rachel Rubin (LinkedIn)
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Dr. Rachel Rubin (Facebook)
- Dr. Rachel Rubin (X)
Recommended Books:
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“The New Perimenopause,” by Dr. Mary Claire Haver
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“The New Menopause" by Dr. Mary Claire Haver
- “Vagina Obscura: An Anatomical Voyage Hardcover,” by Rachel E. Gross
Articles:
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Sexual function after hysterectomy according to surgical indication: a prospective cohort study (Sexual Health)
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The human cervix: Comprehensive review of innervation and clinical significance (Clinical Anatomy)
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Brain activation during vaginocervical self-stimulation and orgasm in women with complete spinal cord injury: fMRI evidence of mediation by the vagus nerves (Brain Research)
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The Impact of Glucagon-like Peptide-1 Receptor Agonists on Erectile Function: Friend or Foe? (Biomolecules)
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“Not feeling like myself” in perimenopause — what does it mean? Observations from the Women Living Better survey (Menopause)
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Updates on Therapeutic Alternatives for Genitourinary Syndrome of Menopause: Hormonal and Non-Hormonal Managements (Journal of Menopausal Medicine)
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Women's Experiences With Genital Touching, Sexual Pleasure, and Orgasm: Results From a U.S. Probability Sample of Women Ages 18 to 94 (Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy)
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A multinational population survey of intravaginal ejaculation latency time (Journal of Sex & Marital Therapy)
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Prevalence of urinary tract infections in women with vulvovaginal atrophy and the impact of vaginal prasterone on the rate of urinary tract infections (Menopause)
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A Cost Savings Analysis of Topical Estrogen Therapy in Urinary Tract Infection Prevention Among Postmenopausal Women (Urology Practice)
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Menopausal Hormone Therapy Use Among Postmenopausal Women (JAMA)
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Global Consensus Position Statement on the Use of Testosterone Therapy for Women (The Journal of Clinical Endocrinology & Metabolism)
- Identifying Changes in Sexual Function in Cisgender Women Taking GLP1/GIP Receptor Agonists (Journal of Sexual Medicine)
Other Resources:
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The International Society for the Study of Women's Sexual Health (ISSWSH)
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Half the World Has a Clitoris. Why Don’t Doctors Study It? (New York Times)
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Sex Education (IMDb)
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What is GSM? (Dr. Rachel Rubin, MD)
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Women’s Health Initiative
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Antidepressant Use Among Adults: United States, 2015-2018 (CDC)
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Prosayla
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Genitourinary Syndrome of Menopause AUA/SUFU/AUGS Guideline 2025 (American Urological Association)
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Transforming GSM Care: How Evidence, Experts, and Advocacy Changed the Label (AUA News)
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DIVERSITY: A Tool for Equity: The American Urological Association Annual Census (AUA News)
- Advances in the Diagnosis and Treatment of Chronic Pelvic Pain (MedCentral)