In this episode of unPAUSED, Dr. Mary Claire Haver sits down with board certified pelvic floor physical therapist Dr. Sara Reardon, known on social media as The Vagina Whisperer, to take on a belief many women carry into midlife: that bladder leakage is just part of getting older. Pelvic floor dysfunction affects roughly one in four women, and that number climbs with age, yet most women in perimenopause and menopause have never been taught what the pelvic floor is or that pelvic floor physical therapy can help.
They begin the conversation with the basics, from what these muscles do every day to what actually happens at a first pelvic floor therapy visit. They also get into why simply being told to do Kegels so rarely works, how a pelvic floor that is too tight can cause many of the same symptoms as one that is too weak, and where biofeedback fits in. Dr. Haver shares her mother’s decades of living with urinary incontinence, while Dr. Reardon recalls the moment she leaked on a tennis court and understood the mental load her patients carry.
From there they turn to the bladder in midlife, including waking up at night to pee, the difference between stress incontinence and urge incontinence, a simple technique for preventing leaks when you cough or sneeze, and why recurrent urinary tract infections and genitourinary syndrome of menopause (GSM) so often call for vaginal estrogen. They also cover practical ways to cut down on nighttime bathroom trips and lower the risk of a fall on the way there.
They close with pelvic organ prolapse, when the bladder, uterus, or rectum presses into the vaginal wall and causes pressure or a bulge. It is far more common than most women realize. Dr. Reardon explains what causes it, why surgery alone does not strengthen the muscles underneath, what women with transvaginal mesh should watch for, and what to ask before agreeing to any prolapse repair.
Guest Links:
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Dr. Sara Reardon (Instagram)
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Dr. Sara Reardon - The Vagina Whisperer
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NOLA Pelvic Health (NOLA Pelvic Health)
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Sara Reardon (NOLA Pelvic Health)
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The V-Hive App (The Vagina Whisperer)
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Recommended Products (The Vagina Whisperer)
- NOLA Pelvic Health (Facebook)
Books:
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Floored: A Woman’s Guide to Pelvic Floor Health at Every Age and Stage,” by Dr. Sara Reardon
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“The New Perimenopause,” by Dr. Mary Claire Haver
- “The New Menopause" by Dr. Mary Claire Haver
Articles:
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Knowledge of the pelvic floor in menopausal women and in peripartum women (Journal of Physical Therapy Science)
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Prevalence of Symptomatic Pelvic Floor Disorders in US Women (JAMA)
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The “Costs” of Urinary Incontinence for Women (Obstetrics & Gynecology)
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Vaginal childbirth and pelvic floor disorders (Women’s Health)
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Cumulative Incidence of a Subsequent Surgery After Stress Urinary Incontinence and Pelvic Organ Prolapse Procedure (Obstetrics & Gynecology)
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Assessment of Kegel pelvic muscle exercise performance after brief verbal instruction (American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology)
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Progressive resistance exercise in the functional restoration of the perineal muscles (American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology)
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The burden of nocturia among middle-aged and older women (Obstetrics & Gynecology)
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Management of osteoporosis in postmenopausal women: the 2021 position statement of The North American Menopause Society (Menopause)
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Efficacy of vaginal estrogen for recurrent urinary tract infection prevention in hypoestrogenic women (American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology)
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A Controlled Trial of Intravaginal Estriol in Postmenopausal Women with Recurrent Urinary Tract Infections (The New England Journal of Medicine)
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Intermittent versus indwelling catheters for older patients with hip fractures (Journal of Clinical Nursing)
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Vaginal Estrogen Application Techniques for Prevention of Urinary Tract Infection: A Randomized Trial (Obstetrics & Gynecology)
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Epidemiology and outcome assessment of pelvic organ prolapse (International Urogynecology Journal)
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Pelvic Organ Prolapse (American Family Physician)
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Risk factors for pelvic organ prolapse and its recurrence: a systematic review (International Urogynecology Journal)
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Vaginal prolapse surgery with transvaginal mesh: results of the Austrian registry (International Urogynecology Journal)
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Long-term outcomes of transvaginal mesh (TVM) in patients with pelvic organ prolapse: A 5-year follow-up (European Journal of Obstetrics & Gynecology and Reproductive Biology)
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Pessaries (mechanical devices) for managing pelvic organ prolapse in women (Cochrane)
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Recurrent Uncomplicated Urinary Tract Infections in Women: AUA/CUA/SUFU Guideline (2025) (American Urological Association)
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Influence of Body Position on Defecation in Humans (Lower Gastrointestinal Tract)
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The 2020 genitourinary syndrome of menopause position statement of The North American Menopause Society (Menopause)
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The AUA/SUFU/AUGS Guideline on Genitourinary Syndrome of Menopause (The Journal of Urology)
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Factors associated with developing vaginal dryness symptoms in women transitioning through menopause: a longitudinal study (Menopause)
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Genitourinary Syndrome of Menopause: A Systematic Review (Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality)
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The Women’s EMPOWER Survey: Identifying Women’s Perceptions on Vulvar and Vaginal Atrophy and Its Treatment (The Journal of Sexual Medicine)
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Age effects on urethral striated muscle. I. Changes in number and diameter of striated muscle fibers in the ventral urethra (American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology)
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Female Sexual Arousal: Genital Anatomy and Orgasm in Intercourse (Hormones and Behavior)
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Vaginismus, a component of a general defensive reaction. An investigation of pelvic floor muscle activity during exposure to emotion-inducing film excerpts in women with and without vaginismus (International Urogynecology Journal and Pelvic Floor Dysfunction)
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A population-based assessment of chronic unexplained vulvar pain: have we underestimated the prevalence of vulvodynia? (Journal of the American Medical Women’s Association)
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The prevalence of urinary incontinence in nulliparous female sportswomen: A systematic review (Journal of Sports Sciences)
- Urinary incontinence in elite nulliparous athletes (Obstetrics & Gynecology)
Other Resources:
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Power to the Pelvis (NIH News in Health)
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Nearly Half of Women Over 50 Experience Incontinence, but Most Haven’t Talked to a Doctor (Michigan Medicine)
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About BHOF (Bone Health & Osteoporosis Foundation)
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Symptoms & Causes of Kidney Infection (Pyelonephritis) (NIDDK)
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Vulvodynia (Nature Reviews Disease Primers)
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Cystocele (NIDDK)
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Bowel incontinence (NHS)
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Vaginal Rejuvenation Market (Straits Research)
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Pelvic Rehabilitation Practitioner Directory
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Squatty Potty
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